Lola Vice Interview, plus Honoring the Memory of Benjamin Satterley (aka Pac) | No-Contest Wrestling

This week's No-Contest Wrestling was two episodes in one. O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson opened with Lola Vice, newly arrived on Raw and headed into Money in the Bank. Then they turned to devastating news: the death of Benjamin Satterley, known as Pac in AEW and Adrian Neville in WWE, at 40 years old.

Lola Vice came back to the show after a stretch that changed her career. Before reaching the main roster, she was told she might go to AAA for one match, maybe two months. It turned into a year of working AAA and NXT live events, flying to Mexico every other weekend or more.

"I fell in love," she said. "It was honestly the best thing to happen to my career."

She called it a completely different side of the business. She speaks Spanish, but calling a match and talking in the ring in Mexican Spanish was new, and she found herself teaching the AAA women WWE psychology while learning to read a crowd in real time. "I learned to be in the moment and listen to crowd reaction and react based on the crowd," she said. "I'm only 5 years in and it kind of fast-tracked my learning."

The Undertaker was a huge part of that. Vice said he would spend all day in the ring with the women, training and wrestling with them even though he does not speak Spanish, and he gave her the first title of her WWE career, a mixed tag run with Mr. Iguana. "Who was going to tell me in my career I was going to go to Mexico and fall in love with an iguana?" she laughed. Rey Mysterio told her to stay true to herself and add a little lucha only if she wanted to.

That inevitably led to TJ retelling the story of calling the Undertaker "Mark" at Fanatics Fest, which, the hosts admitted, some viewers have heard before.

The NXT Women's Championship came next. Vice admitted she went to the bathroom and cried when she was told she would beat Jacy Jayne for it. "At one point I thought I don't think this is ever going to happen for me," she said. She would go to sleep every night picturing Lola Vice side plates on that title.

She also explained, for the first time on the show, why she left MMA for WWE. Her father was a fight stunt actor and her first martial arts instructor, and she always felt born for entertainment. She went into MMA because she loved fighting, because her mother had leukemia and there was money in it, and because she believed it would get her noticed by WWE with a different kind of credibility. A Bellator knockout during the pandemic did exactly that, leading to an invitation to WrestleMania, where one of the hosts remembers seeing her in a suite. After that, she took her first bump at a gym in North Miami. "I just knew that this is what I was going to do for the rest of my life."

On Raw, she feels prepared rather than nervous, and she credited the build-up vignettes for showing her as "a feminine woman and someone that could also be an ass kicker." Her first main roster premium live event is Money in the Bank, fitting since her first WWE show as a fan was also Money in the Bank. Her message for the other women in the ladder match: "They're not even going to be able to make it to the top of the ladder cuz I'm going to knock them out or put them to sleep before they could get to it." The hosts, meanwhile, now owe her a name for her signature move by New Orleans.

The second half of the show was much harder. Satterley died hours after All Out, where he opened the show in a match with Andrade and later appeared during the Will Ospreay and Jon Moxley main event. One host said he saw the AEW announcement while watching football and thought it was a bad joke. The hosts said there was no sign that anything was wrong, and Swerve Strickland told them nobody backstage noticed a thing. Satterley was on his way to the service for Andy Williams when he passed.

O'Shea and TJ remembered the backlash when rumors surfaced of a goofy gimmick for him in WWE, his match with Seth Rollins in 2014, his Red Arrow that never missed, and Death Triangle with Penta and Rey Fenix in AEW. They sent condolences to his wife, Natalie, and noted the rare moment of unity between WWE and AEW fans.

Then they welcomed Eric, known to wrestling fans as Enzo Amore, who called Satterley his best friend. He asked people not to speculate about a cause of death, saying Satterley "was the most health-conscious human I ever met," and that before anything else he was a son and a husband who loved Natalie "more than anything in this entire world."

Eric described meeting him in Tampa as a green NXT signee on a $600 a week contract who had never wrestled. Satterley arrived as the best worker on the roster, and they bonded over a new Kendrick Lamar album. Eric drove him to every show, with a rotating car that included Windham, Braun Strowman and Fandango. "I owe everything in this world to Ben," he said, crediting him for teaching him the psychology of wrestling, what a false finish was and what kayfabe meant.

He called Satterley's cruiserweight run "the most unappreciated run in the history of pro wrestling," a roughly 300-day work year doing Raw events and SmackDown so he could bring money home to his wife in England. He would not speak on why Satterley left, but noted he dropped the title to "his best friend in the world."

"Life is just a high spot, bro," Eric said. "And nobody ran a high spot better than Neville."

The hosts closed by pointing out how Satterley elevated everyone, with one admitting that Pac's matches with Orange Cassidy are what made him take Cassidy seriously. Their final words were for Natalie and everyone who loved him. "He will be remembered," they said, "and that is how you live forever."