Jade Cargill calls herself the storm, and she means it literally. Sitting down with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, the WWE superstar said the weather changes wherever she goes, and as if on cue, the rain started falling on her outdoor interview.
"I control my elements. I get people to stand up, I get people to sit down," Cargill said. "Everywhere I go, the element of the weather changes. That's my superpower."
The hosts wanted the story she had not told publicly: the night her wig came off mid-match during a fatal four-way. Cargill addressed it head on, and turned it into a lesson. The wig, she stressed, was sewn and glued, and the collision with Charlotte was hard enough to tear out pieces of her real hair.
"It's one of my biggest fears, and it happened," she said. "But more than anything, I'm alive."
What stuns her in hindsight is that she finished the match at all. The whole sequence, she was told afterward, lasted two minutes and 34 seconds, though it felt like forever. She screamed Charlotte's name, fumed, and kept wrestling rather than stop the show. She refused advice to rip the wig off and throw it, partly because thread still held it in place, partly because she would not lean into a stereotype.
Cargill framed the online reaction as ignorance worth confronting. Plenty of women in wrestling wear extensions or wigs, she noted, and what got called a botch was simply part of her character.
"Good or bad, I always trend," she said. "People hate what they can't be."
Then there was the cut. Cargill hit a set of steel stairs that were supposed to move, opened up three layers deep, and bled all night because the plastic surgeon was not in the building. Backstage, Triple H told her she would need a plastic surgeon, and Kevin Owens stopped to take a picture. Through all of it, she stayed eerily calm.
"I'm married. He better not leave me over some scar," Cargill joked. Her bigger worry was missing a friend's 40th birthday she had spent more than a year planning. Now she accentuates the scar with a touch of paint, a Stone Cold-style accent she has embraced. "I think I look sexier than before with it."
She lit up talking about her husband, former Cincinnati Reds infielder Brandon Phillips, who once got stuck in a hotel elevator for over an hour with her entire party of girlfriends and kids while she was on show mode.
Asked to build a five-person squad and a dream Wrestlemania card, Cargill reached across eras: Jacqueline, Chyna, Bianca Belair and Sasha Banks for the team, and matches against the likes of Chyna, Trish Stratus, Booker T and one idol she has yet to meet, Stone Cold Steve Austin.
The throughline was Night of Champions, where Cargill challenges Tiffany Stratton for the United States title in what would be roughly their fifth meeting. She insists the belt was never the goal, that Stratton simply got in her way.
"Why not take it off her hands?" Cargill said. "Let's go for the grand slam, baby."
Watch the full interview with Jade Cargill on The Rich Eisen Show, streaming live on Disney+ weekdays Noon-3PM ET.
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