Halfway through the season, Rich asked Cam Heyward a simple question on The Rich Eisen Show: who is the Steelers' unsung MVP, the guy nobody is talking about enough?
Heyward had two answers ready.
"It's Jaylen Warren. I don't think we're talking enough about the guy," Heyward said. "He is balling on an absurd pace right now."
Rich took mild exception to the idea that nobody's talking about Warren, at least where his show is concerned. The show had a "delightful chat" with Warren just a couple of weeks ago, so Rich gave Heyward the floor on his second pick instead.
That was Zach Frazier. "Zach Frazier is the glue guy on our offensive line," Heyward said. "I think he's playing the best out of any offensive lineman in this league. And I think he needs to get his due."
Heyward expanded on why. "Zach is a complete player," he said. "He's a younger ascending guy in our league that he's going against great competition. He's going against a Dexter Lawrence. He's going against all these different great players, and I think he's performing at a high level."
That matters because of the question hanging over Pittsburgh coming into the season. "At the beginning of the season it was, is the Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line ready? Are they going to be able to do what they need to do to protect Aaron?" Heyward said. "It starts with Zach Frazier, and he's answering that call."
From there, Rich turned to Aaron Rodgers, who still seemed displeased with the offense at his postgame podium. Rich noted it isn't Rodgers' first rodeo, and that Heyward has made his own point about banners not getting raised for a 6-2 record. Rich also reminded him that the Steelers were 8-2 just a couple of years ago, and that season didn't work out the way they wanted.
So what's the message behind a podium like that?
"We got to build," Heyward said. "We're not a complete team yet on offense and on defense. We got to continue to grow. There's still missed opportunities. There are things we can do to clean up our game."
Heyward sees Rodgers' attitude as a feature, not a problem. "I think he understands that we can maximize a lot better under his regime," he said. "I love that he's not settling. I love that you have a quarterback that thinks we can be better."
For a 6-2 team, that's the right kind of discontent. As Heyward put it, the Steelers can "look forward to the future and say there are still things we can work on to be a better team."
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Adapted from the original segment on The Rich Eisen Show. How we cover the show.